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| > se zapojil do diskuze k produktu Čepice zimní BERTA - velikost 56 dne 13.05.2012 v 22:49 hodin |
| Hi Paula,I’m struggling with how to rponsed. First of all, you’re right: I do think I missed your point. Perhaps this is due to the length of the original interview, but even as I read (and re-read) it, I’m still left somewhat perplexed. As I scan your comment above, I’m even less clear on what you’re trying to convey.Before I continue, though, I’d like to note that in no way do I mean to infer that you shouldn’t be working with the corporations you do. That’s your choice, and there’s nothing wrong with it. Heck, I’d have a hard time turning away work from such groups. (We all need to pay the bills, one way or another.)The part that concerned me, was that it seemed like you were making assumptions about others’ decisions and motivations. You referenced their fear of more mainstream projects—something I’m unsure actually exists. Meanwhile, your term “ivory tower designers” is hard to see as anything other than pejorative in nature. I’m of the mind that such notions set up an “us versus them” tone that’s dismissive and largely unnecessary. Thanks for coming here and rponseding, though. I appreciate that, and didn’t expect it. A few brief notes:I don’t see corporations as “devilish.” In my opinion, those that do bad things are simply a victim of their size. The further people get away from other people, the harder it is to understand the ramifications of their work. This is perhaps best evidenced by shareholders demanding higher return on their investments. My guess is that few think about how these returns are reached—and the impact had on others or the environment. I do agree with you that designers should engage with clients where they can make positive change. As you’ve noted, that sometimes means packaging their products (or offering) in a more visually attractive manner, in turn helping make their businesses more profitable. (I should note that this is sort of a baseline, though. Most of us try to do this anyway; don’t we?)We also find folks like William McDonough and Michael Braungart who engage with many large corporations (i.e. Ford), in order to help them make better decisions. Their reasoning for doing so is like yours, in that they feel that someone has to take on that role; meanwhile, they believe that this is where they can have the most impact, as these groups are simply so big.Clearly, these are highly complex and multifaceted issues. I think that’s why I was sort of taken aback when I read the original interview. What I read, seemed like you were thumbing your nose at others who were trying to do something good. If I misunderstood that, I apologize. I couldn’t let it pass without making some noise, though.Cheers!Eric |
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| > se zapojil do diskuze k produktu Čepice zimní BERTA - velikost 56 dne 14.05.2012 v 04:14 hodin |
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| > se zapojil do diskuze k produktu Čepice zimní BERTA - velikost 56 dne 14.05.2012 v 12:49 hodin |
| The elephant in the room aperaps to be design. In my view design is no longer worth all the energy directed at it. Design is no longer an exclusive activity limited to those with access to the tools. Design is not enough anymore. Anyone wishing to express content in a compelling manner doesn't have to look far to find the form-giving skills necessary to deliver a message effectively. Designers not able to add value to content are merely stylists and style has an extremely limited type of value. There are no visual innovations unless what is being conveyed is innovative. There are no design innovations unless form enables content to intervene in the world to greater effect. Design is a given nowadays, there is no need to waste so much time discussing the importance of design in business. Design does not have the power to change the world, it can only assist in articulating potential solutions, solutions that are unlikely to be provided by designers. To beautify a misbehaving corporation is not a moral crime. Beautification is cosmetic and doesn't fool anyone. For those needing to assess the world in moral terms this should be plain to see and they cannot claim to have been seduced by anything design may have contributed. If the fundamental ideas in a brand are not affected a discussion about design is a waste of time. This view takes the issues under consideration in Eric's post out of the hands of designers. Designers may sometimes be well positioned to flag these issues up for people with suitable competencies but designers should not assume responsibility for these issues on behalf of their clients.In my view Paula is sufficiently experienced to tackle some of these issues but it is an unrivalled working experience in the field that has enabled this; not some inherent design capability. A discussion about the role of design in relation to issues such as corporate behaviour and sustainability in general seems naive.A. |
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